Welcome to the blog. This week was only four days long for us here in Auckland and so is next week. This means you'll be getting next week's post on our Thursday (so for some of you it'll be Wednesday) and you should submit your questions with that in mind (ie, earlier, if you were going to wait till Thursday (or Friday). With no solid new things to talk to you about I'm going to go over some possibilities for a certain Monkey vs. Monkey/Honor system in Bloons Monkey City.
Firstly, however, I'll touch on the SAS Zombie Assault 4 update and Bloons Monkey City Android. SAS4 web's update is super, super close. So close that we almost had it ready for this week. Unfortunately issues kept on rearing their ugly heads and caused us to delay. All of us are aiming for a Monday/Tuesday update though this isn't set in stone yet. Monkey City Android, though not encountering the same sort of delays is pretty close itself. We want these in your hands, but we also want them to work properly for you.
Bloons Monkey City - Have You No Honour?
A while ago... a long while ago, the MvM and Honor system was called out for not working well. We made some changes that we found helped a bit for MvM in general, but City Honor has continued to be a sticking point for players. I promised that there were changes, and there will be changes, but it has taken us a long time to get these out. This is simply for the reason that the system worked generally how we wanted it to, it just didn't allow players to achieve certain AP in real world situations. There was a disconnect because MvM wasn't played as much because of these problems, so we were focusing on things that were played more which meant MvM didn't get fixed so that people would play it.
Anyway. After another discussion about changes I'm still not able to give you a time-frame, but I can give you our thoughts on what changes we'll make. If you've played MvM in Bloons Monkey City mobile, our proposal is to essentially use the same system we've set up there.
For those who haven't played it, here's a basic outline:
One thing that requires pointing out is that the numbers you're earning will be smaller than they are currently. You may get 2 Honor for an attack if the other player beats it, just 10 Honor for a defend win (and in this scenario you'd lose 2 Honor if you gave up). It is however a system that rewards you for participating, even working with friends, and doesn't punish you at many points. Most importantly you can grind it out and get those high AP achievements that were previously out of reach for a lot of people.
There will be a difference in sending attacks. Each attack will be fully powered but we currently don't have plans to introduce the special wave types that mobile has. This could require some playing around with attack sending to give the player back some input.
Lastly, this has no relation to the current MvM system at all. It's so different that it's possible that we will remove any current Honor you have. If we do this we will not remove Honor achievements already earned.
So, I'd love to have your feedback.
This system is not implemented in the web version at all yet. Because it's only mobile it means we still have to build it from the ground up. This means that we want your feedback about this so we can make web focused changes if there's something you suggest that we think would make it better.
The best way to do this is probably to create a thread (only one thread, check to make sure someone else didn't do it already) on the forums so discussion can be tracked more easily.
Questions from the Comments:
Hmm, only one lady in that picture. What's up with that?
All the other ladies were away or perhaps didn't like the idea of running around getting muddy
Will you ever add a new Agent or Mission to BTD5 web?
Agents or Special Missions are more unlikely than new modes (which we hope to get in one day) but nothing is technically ruled out.
Will there be an Ice Station Map Master achievement?
Nope (repeat answer but hey)
Thanks for stopping by everyone. Please leave your questions or comments for us below and I'll see you here again in 6 days.
Aaron
Nice system. Will still be glimming city cash from sent attacks?
i just defend my city on a very hard attack and i won it but i don't receive an honor for defending my city ....how come, i thought there is some mistake ..but it happen for 4x now, so its bugging me,why ? If i don't defend my city i will lose an honor, why i don't receive any when i won, pls explain..
why is there 4 additional monkeys in btd5 mobile but not pc oh and because of that will u add exclusive towers to btd5 and also why is there 4th teir upgrades in btd5 mobile but not pc ANSWER THIS PLEASE
Why were we not warned about the changes to Battle Panic? It seems pretty sneaky to do it that way. People are going, "what happened to my AP?". What other hard achievements are you going to dumb down now and take the well deserved AP away from people who won it fairly? This is insulting and has left a lot of people with hard feelings over it. Seems like all you creative people at NK could have come up with a better solution to this problem!
I can see two dark planets on the mission select screen of SAS: Zombie Assault 4. Any info on that? Future missions maybe?
It's good to see you finally revised the "300 at..." achievements at battle panic. Got behind when doing some research why I lost approx. 1,500 awesome "overnight" and even dropped a rank. :-/ And it was nerfed - just 150 Awesome for reaching wave 150. Yeah, yeah, I know it was impossible to get to 300 without glitches anyway, but it was still a tough job to reach wave 300. Seeing this taken away... sucks! When I went for it I even spent 50 NK coins from the WoF for "thick armor" premium. Had I known it's for just 450 awesome now instead of 1,500 I would have thought my invest over - probably would have chosen BTD5 premiums...
Can you get Overclocked on any pistol once you get pistol master lvl 5?
Why can't my SAS dude get a sweet cape?
Question: Any chances of beta testing the Monkey City beta on the Android like there were a beta for the SAS 4 for Android?
Are there going to be any more clan challenges in the near future?