Happy New Year!

Thu, Dec 31, 2009

General News, Up and coming

Boy 2009 was a big year for us. We started out the year as four full-timers and ended the year as seven. Interestingly the development timeframe of games seems to stretch a little with each new employee and we now spend around 6-8 man-months on a game. Several games coming in 2010 will be even longer.

SAS: Zombie Assault 2 was our first foray into longer, more polished and more in-depth games. It was also our first game to use in-game micro payments which we hoped would help to fund the much longer development time and we were right, the game was a success. While we’re conscious of continuing to make games that are entirely free to play (and beat) the development of the micro-payment model has allowed us to stretch ourselves in terms of game quality and will allow us to experiment a little with things like multiplayer and different types of games. We’re especially appreciative of our fan support which by and large has accepted this development in the flash gaming world.

One of the low points in 2009 was the closure of My Ninja Kiwi. I know there are plenty of people that miss it and we still have mixed feelings about it all. Unfortunately the initial planning of MYNK was a little shortsighted and the site grew into a sickly behemoth that we had to put to sleep.  Thoughts for 2010? We MAY have another look at how to give something more robust to our fans to play with but we’ll definitely have to do some serious planning before comitting.

So what’s in store for 2010?

Given BTD4 was such a huge hit with fans and critics alike, it seems a certainty that we’ll start work on BTD5. We’re exhausted at the thought but already have a pretty good list of ideas of how to push the game in new end exciting directions. Keep your eyes peeled for an upcoming competition we’re going to set up to get even more ideas for BTD5.

We’ll also re-look at SAS multiplayer. I know I posted previously that it wasn’t going to happen but for some reason the noise from fans asking from multiplayer has increased as a result of that post, not decreased. It seems inevitable that we’ll have to put our fears aside and tackle this in ’10. See, we do listen to you (even if I don’t reply to every comment in the blog). Fans of the SAS series will also have a couple more games to look forward to. More on those later!

We have 3 new games in the pipeline now, two of which you should see before the end of January and a bunch more on the drawing board. 2010 is going to be chocka!

So from all of us here at Ninja Kiwi we wish you a very happy and safe New Year, and we look forward to bringing you more of the best games of 2010!

Chris

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  1. Fabrizio BS Says:

    ideas for BTD5: a tower that needs to pop 100 bloons to use a super atack.
    :laser tower.
    :item tower (monkey glue, pineapple and road spikes atack)
    :and music.

  2. BigOto Says:

    Maybe a new golden bloon that has 3 (more or less) leads in it.

  3. sportfire2 Says:

    cool, now BTD5 you will make.
    HAPPY NEW YEARS!

  4. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    A couple new bloons like purple bloons, gel bloons which turn into 2 metal bloons. a new item like an orange wich exploads into acid
    A new tower idea a sword monkey which is on the track and destroys bloons with a sword. upgrades for it (in order)double blade increases pop count, samaria sword increases pop count and can pop frozen bloons, crystal samaria sword increases pop count and can pop metal bloons, and finally light saber monkey can pop any bloons and very high pop count

  5. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    @sportfire2 I think they’re waiting until April, which is when they started making BTD4.

  6. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    other ideas for towers mobile towers which can move and cross the path poping bloons

  7. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    And could you also PLEASE reopen MyNinjaKiwi? Everyone misses it, I can tell. I have a poll going, if you want to see it and/or vote on it click my name.

  8. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Ideas for BTD5:
    There should be:

    banana peels (bloons slip back)

    gas bloons (when popped, they explode and pop other bloons by 3 layers, but have 3 rainbows inside)

    crashes between the Monkey Ace and the blimps which count as 10 hits

    a super monkey/bomb tower that shoots bombs really fast, with epic range, bigger bombs, missiles, and light (like the sun god) for upgrades, in that order (unless you use my next idea)

    6 upgrades per tower, in a sequence

    a UFO launcher that launches UFOs which fly in one figure eight, dropping alien monkeys with powers. The alien shoots the nearest bloon with its powers and disappears. The powers pop, slow, or slip back a certain number of bloons (five?). Can go anywhere a banana farm/mortar can. The UFO flies to the center and moves like the Ace once.

  9. F-3hdemon Says:

    Okay some ideas for BTD5:

    Bannana monkey that launches bannanas that can pop up to 18 bloons at once

    6,8 or 9 upgrades per tower in 2 or 3 upgrade paths

    Machine gun monkey that can be upgraded to a 40mm cannon

    Just like a buccaner, but different, make a monkey destoyer that then can be upgraded to a cruiser then battleship

    Kamikaze monkey that collides with bloons causing alot of bloons popped

    A gold bloon that takes 20 hits to destroy but then you will win $35

    A purple bloon that carries 7 rainbowns but takes 1 hit to destroy

  10. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    Hi i’m back with more info on the sword monkey. intstead of a circle for range it could be a piece of the track. Also before samaria monkey there could be increase range and no crystal samaria. You could have a well tower (i don’t know what to call it) that grabs bloons and pops them they would be on the track. Also a gun monkey the gun shoots darts faster and can pop 5 bloons at once.

  11. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    F-3demon a purple bloon would hold a single pink bloon and would be bigger and faster not holding 7 pinks.

  12. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    see ya all soon oh wait what about a flying super monkey…

  13. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    are you there f-3demon

  14. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    a flying super monkey would cost mochi coins…or would it…IDK

  15. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    bye

  16. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    oh bye the way Chris I have leaked on level 1 a choose a glue monkey to start could get corossive glue and forgot about road spikes.

  17. Matt33 Says:

    Lol, keep your ideas to yourselves until the contest! Wouldn’t want someone stealing and entering them.

  18. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    what contest

  19. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    there will be no contest he just takes suggestions and if people copy my idea then it has a higher chance of being in BTD5.

  20. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    say my idea of sword monkey they would rock

  21. F-3hdemon Says:

    @BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan your right but I think there should be a new kind of strong bloon like a rainbow or brown etc

  22. F-3hdemon Says:

    I think that it is a compettiton for the guy that has the better ideas and the more people agree with them the more it has chances of being in BTD5, that’s the contest (I think)

  23. B-Rod Says:

    @btd_and_pp_lover banana peels was my idea :-/ well that ufo thing would lag like ache ee double-hockeysticks so maybe it should be a monkey ace upgrade that shoots a lazer shock wave, that is similar to ring of fire, so it’s basically moving ring of fire

  24. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    Hi guys i’m back

  25. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    F-3demon a new kind could be a grey bloon when popped it turns into 10 purples okay and there is no competion

  26. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    brb

  27. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    maybe there is one but there are no prizes

  28. Konrada Says:

    Thanks Ninjakiwi guys :)

    I was thinking of a lighthouse drill. It spins around a light (like a lighthouse and pops balloons around it. upgrades are Light Speed, Ocean Range, and All Rounder. Super upgrade is everything 2x, including the size.

    And a groundhog. It goes under the tracks but at the same time pops some bloons depending on where it is, then comes back out of the way. Then repeats. Upgrades are Drill Soundwave (pops move and a little more range), Helmet Safeguard (in graphics, gets a helmet; in upgrades, it digs just a little bit more through the small area of the track where it has a set location), and finally, the Mole Swarm, where lots of groundhogs team up in the same area, popping bloons. Super upgrade is Superpower Megaswarm, which adds 3 more moles and doubles the # of popped bloons by the groundhog group.

  29. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Hey, sweet ideas everyone! But I just want to be clear: Matt, what do you mean by a contest?

  30. F-3hdemon Says:

    Cool you got good imagination all you that put ideas. Good ideas!

    But I think It will be good to put all the facts of your idea so I do:

    The bannana monkey is able to pop 10 bloons at once then the first upgrade is double bannana, then the new upgrade is bannana peel. The bannana peel upgrade makes bloons go backwards like the monkey aprrentice’s Tornado spells. The 3rd upgrade in this upgrade path is banana guidance, it goes tord the bloons and can pop up to 20 bloons at once

    Then in the other upgrade path the 1st upgrade is longer range, then it is bannana splash, it means thay when it reaches its maximum pop count the bannana speel opens and the bannana goes splashing into the bloons, slowing five.
    the last upgrade in this path is extra long range which gives even more range.

    The super upgrade is bannana desvastator which pops up to 100 bloons and ters into the lead bloons poping them

  31. fabrizio bs Says:

    ideas for BTD5: ice pineapple: (after three seconds it explodes ice, freezing the bloons around him)
    Tower of guided missile:(shoots a missile, which follows the bloon that was chosen, and when it reaches the target the missile explodes)

  32. BigOto Says:

    BTD5 could be done in 3D, like SAS was done in 3D. This would make it easier to see Monkey Aces and bloons (which could float a little bit off the ground)

  33. daniel Says:

    for btd 5 i think there should for a new airship called the bop
    (bloonship of pain) and it takes 1090 hits to pop and when it pops you get 3 bfbs and it is only popped with bombs so an thing sharp or freeing won’t harm it only bombs. so when your done you get lots bloons to pop which is why it called the bloonship of pain

  34. lol1 Says:

    click on my name to go to an AWESOME game!(especailly chris) speaking of why…you only have a little company including mochigames helping you…so you should ask some more companies to help you on stuff(example is multiplayer) but your still doing good on games(THERE GREAT!)
    BUUUUUUT…..ANY WAYS……a good company to ask is the causual collective.they have alot of multiplayer games with chat
    and same for nonoba

    AND ANY WAYS IM BACK!

  35. fabrizio bs Says:

    fire bloon :( can thaw a frozen bloon)
    fast MOAB : a MOAB, but more fast

  36. fabrizio bs Says:

    :)
    :(
    ;)
    ;(
    :D
    8)

  37. fabrizio bs Says:

    P)

  38. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Could we please not have bloons, especially blimps, that are popped with only one thing?
    Anyway I’m going to write down one bloon idea and one tower idea, but not here.
    @lol1 that link doesn’t work you didn’t write anything after globalagenda. Do you mean globalagenda.com? I suggest copying and pasting the exact URL.

  39. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    Hi i’m back. No bloons that can only be killed by one thing except the one that are already made. Fire bloons would be very neat. if we’re going to use 2 upgrade paths then for the sword monkey it should be for attack path double blade increases pop count,spiked blade can pop 2 lairs of bloons,Samaria increases pop count and can pop frozen bloons. For the other path there should be longer range increases range no duh, spy gear can detect camos o any new cloaked bloon, and super range no need to explain that.the super upgrade would be double ended lightsaber can pop over 90 bloons and pop 3 lairs on a bloon.

  40. lol1 Says:

    i have ATON of REALLY good ideahs that ive posted all over the blogthat i look forward to IF they make a bloons tower defence 5 (i honstly think btd2 was the fastest with really no lag at all and plz fix the lag on bfb and moab(including the 4th one!

    and now try to click on my name!

  41. lol1 Says:

    ok this time for sure!

  42. lol1 Says:

    this link is getting me mad but i think this time!

  43. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    @lol1 it just said “not found” and it has to have a .(something) after it. by something I mean com or something like that…
    @BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan, I think there’s a contest, because Matt said so and someone might “scoop” you.

  44. Matt33 Says:

    “Keep your eyes peeled for an upcoming competition we’re going to set up to get even more ideas for BTD5.”

    That’s what I meant. It sounds like there will be a submissions box or something for ideas. Just my assumption, who knows..they might look for the ideas posted on here. Personally, I’d keep my ideas to myself until there’s further notice about it, but that’s just 1 opinion :)

  45. F-3hdemon Says:

    I got some more ideas but wait for the contest

  46. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    WE can post them here and repost for the contest because if someone steels an idea it still can get into BTD5.

  47. penguinkid Says:

    I think there should be a bloon that holds 6/3 BFBs I can not think of a name and a flamethrower tower that always shooting flame takes two seconds two pop a bloon and a flying super monkey

  48. penguinkid Says:

    would be awesome :)

  49. lol1 Says:

    i have another web site so click on my name(cris,this could really help for multiplayer games!)

  50. lol1 Says:

    ok i hope now

  51. lol1 Says:

    just type it in google…

  52. btd5 Says:

    ideas for btd5:

    custom monkey builder (have to unlock)

    after u rank up you get points for upgrading ur monkey for:

    Range
    Fire rate
    amount of bloons popped
    amount of layers it can pop
    Accuracy
    Special upgrades like if it can pop leads, see camos, pop frozens, can go on water, or if it does any extra damage to browns, moabs, and bfbs.
    amount of fragments it puts out after popping all of it bloons it can

    Perks:
    u only get one perk for a game and they have to be unlocked one at a time.
    examples:
    towers are able to shoot faster
    browns take only two hits
    3 cash for every two bloons
    more lives
    anything can pop leads
    towers get more range

    Challenges:
    challenges could be just extras that could add more to the game. if u beat a challenge then u could get some cool stuff like different colored towers or tracks
    examples:
    to beat the game without road spikes
    to beat the game with only dart monkeys and pineapple bombs
    to beat the game with no lives lost
    pop 3000 bloons with only dart monkeys
    etc.

    Towers:
    Flamethrower: is really good and doesn’t cost that much but u have to get fuel from the oil refinery upgrade from banana farms that bring in oil every round and u can choose wether or not for the flamer monkey to shoot
    Tacks: beat a challenge to unlock road spikes pro. it costs 80 and can pop fifty bloons
    Pineapples: beat a challenge to unlock pacman bombs. it costs 50 and when u click it, it sends a pacman from the end of the track that goes up the track until it reaches bloons then it explodes 4 times more violent than a normal pineapple
    Glue: beat a challenge to unlock hot glue. it costs 75 and slows down bloons to 1/4 their normal speed and can pop some of them from the intense heat. it can affect up to fifty bloons!
    to activate the upgraded tacks, pineapples, and glue just press “z” when u have selected one of them and “z” to go back to normal.

    Bloons:
    Gold bloon: normal pineapple bombs don’t affect it and neither does any normal bomb tower. u have to get the upgraded pineapple bombs or any upgrade of a tower that states that it can pop golds. Only intense heat can pop these guys like pacman bombs or hot glue or any upgrade of a tower. when u manage to pop it, it has 5 leads waiting inside
    Glass bloon: Invisible like camos but can’t be popped by anything sharp. has 2 camos inside
    Sand bloon: has to be popped by bombs but intense heat turns sand into glass so 3 glass bloons pop out of it

    Track: for each track their should be a special power that can do things like freeze every bloon on the screen but can only be used once.
    underground: part of the track should go underground were normal towers aren’t able to reach them there.

  53. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Hey, thanks Matt. I have a bloon idea and a tower idea, but I kept them in Stickies (a computer application).
    Anyway I think we should all be creative and patient until October. (That’s when BTD4 was released, and Chris said that he wants everyone to wait for at least a year.)

  54. BigOto Says:

    What about an achievements or awards system (like what the user “btd5″ just said), where each award you earn gets you points (more or less points depending on how hard the award is to get). There should be many (at least 15, if I had my say), here are some examples:

    Easy awards worth 1 point:

    -Pop one bloon (so even beginners can easily get awards)
    -Pop 100 bloons
    -Pop 500 bloons
    -Buy 1 tower
    -Buy 10 towers
    -Buy 50 towers
    -Fully upgrade 10 towers
    -Pass 25 rounds in a single game on easy
    -Get a MochiGames account and save your game once
    -Save your game, quit, and return later (Could be called “Back for more” or something like that)
    -Get a “Game Over” once
    -Achieve career rank 5
    -Get X number of awards
    -Spend 1000 money

    Worth 3 points:

    -Pop 1000 bloons
    -Pass all 50 rounds in a single game on easy
    -Pass 25 rounds in a single game on medium
    -Buy 100 towers
    -Fully upgrade 50 towers
    -Achieve career rank 20
    -Get X number of awards

    5 points:

    -Pop 10000 bloons
    -Pass all 75 rounds in a single game on medium
    -Pass all tracks on easy
    -Buy 1000 towers
    -Spend 100000 money
    -Pass 25 rounds in a single game on hard
    -Buy at least one Premium Upgrade (with MochiCoins)

    8 points:

    (All Previous awards listed, but harder)

    -Pass all tracks on medium
    -Buy all premium upgrades
    -Pass all tracks on medium
    -Buy the track editor

    12 points:

    (All Previous awards listed, but harder)

    -Pass all tracks on hard
    -Buy ALL premium upgrades, tracks, and the track editor (with MochiCoins)

    Award Points can be used to buy separate upgrades to help you(like premium upgrades, but not possible to buy with MochiCoins, only award points)

  55. Kranix Says:

    @BigOto Excellent idea,but there should really not be achievements/awards where you have to purchase premium upgrades…

  56. lol1 Says:

    wow thats alot…anyways…dont waste your time on it yet…there might not be a btd5 or challenge(i hope there is!)but chris,can there be more FREE premium stuff

  57. Lemon Says:

    Awesome. I really hope that you guys can raise enough money from all these new games you’ve been making to maybe reopen mynk, or open a new, better site :)

  58. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    I feel the same way as everyone who posted since my last. And maybe the awards can convert to MochiCoins somehow? Or tickets to vote in a poll for what you want next, with actual results?
    But, yeah, I agree, Lemon. Sometimes you have to say no to something good for something better.

  59. Rose Says:

    It amuses me, and speaks to the popularity of the BTD games, that the majority of comments focus on BTD5 rather than any of the other things mentioned.

    I sometimes find myself wishing I could turn the figure eight flight path of the Monkey Ace 90 degrees. Perhaps in BTD5 I will be able to.

  60. fan Says:

    WOW! it looks like a people used my idea! i have a lot of ideas but not want to ruin the surprise (40 until now) and also i have a awesome complete idea of how a btd ds game should be i will post it if chris said he is interested and i will post my 40 ideas if there are 30 comments of different people saying they want to hear them.

  61. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    The reason why the conversation is all about BTD5 is because some of us have played SAS 3D and got less excited about SAS 3D 2. Or we don’t feel so jazzed about more games. But we all probably played BTD, BTD2, 3, and/or 4 and since 4 is SOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD (correction: Not “good”, but GREAT!) then 5 must be
    AWESOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    lets here ideas please

  63. Ben Says:

    I’ve got a good (I hope it is) idea for a bloons, a flying bloon, it can be a transparent colour and is quite large. It can contain like 3 blacks or something like that inside it, the bloons doesn’t stick to the path, it just flies over everything to the exit. It can be called the Helium bloon

  64. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Oh. Like the one in Bloons?
    And here are my ideas:
    New bloon: Camo blimp. Like a weaker MOAB (takes 100 hits) with camo bloons instead of brown.
    New tower: A superhero monkey, which flies like the Monkey Ace but only shoots when a bloon is under it and it isn’t a Camo.

  65. lol1 Says:

    i have a good ideah!
    a quality button to play like it was in btd3 and one for playing like btd4!

  66. jamie Says:

    you should make a monkey that throws a basketball or some kind of ball that can hit like 20 baloons.

  67. sportfire2 Says:

    hey chris,
    since you have made bomb tower for final upgrade 10x damage to the MOAB mauler and BFB’s, maybe you can make 5x damage or 3x damage on for monkeys or something to MOAB mauler’s and BFB’s,
    will it work?

  68. F-3hdemon Says:

    BigOto, excellent ideas, but we need to buy premium upgrades and that with mochicoins, I will also do that, but in a very different mode.

    I will do with some points (not mochicoins) To get ranks

    Very easy mode (each one is 25 points)

    Start with under 150 money with a free cannon
    Have a tower that has a pop count of at least 200
    Reach level 20 with full lives
    Start game in level 10 with 750 money
    Get at level 30

    Easy mode (each one is 50 points)

    Start with under 250 money with two normal monkeys
    Have a tower that has a pop count of at least 500
    Reach level 30 with full lives
    Start game in level 15 with 900 money
    Get at level 45

    Normal mode (each one is 80 points)

    Start with under 400 money with a free boomerang monkey
    Have a tower that has a pop count of at least 850
    Reach level 50 with full lives
    Start game on level 20 with 1000 money
    Get at level 75

    I will do part 2

  69. F-3hdemon Says:

    Part 2

    Hard mode (each one is 150 points)

    Start with under 500 money with a free boomerang monkey
    Have a tower that has a pop count of at least 1,500
    Reach level 70 with full lives
    Start game on level 25 with 1,200 money
    Get to level 90

    Expert mode (Each one is 350 points)

    Start with under 750 money with a free cannon
    Have a tower that has a pop count of at least 5,000
    Reach level 90 with full lives
    Start game on level 25 with 1,000 money
    Get to level 100

    Bloon admiral mode (Each one is 750 points!)

    Start with under 1000 money with 10 free sets of spikes+ 1 normal monkey
    Have a tower that has a pop count of 35,000
    Reach level 120 with full lives
    Start game on level 25 with normal money (650)
    Get to level 150!!
    You can also get points each tine you play in normal mode, here are the ranks:

    Monkey cute baby (0-50 points)
    Monkey small (50-125 points)
    Monkey kid (125-250 points)
    Monkey apprentice (250-550 points)
    Monkey funky (550-1000 points)
    Monkey funk (1000-2000 points)
    Monkey geek (2000-3000 points)
    Monkey nerd (3000-5000 points)
    Monkey intellectual (5000-8000 points)
    Bloon popper (8000-15000 points)
    Bloon Destroyer (15000-25000 points)
    Bloon Devastator (25000-40000 points)
    Bloon Obliterator (40000-75000 points) 3rd class
    Bloon Obliterator (75000-100000 points) 2nd class
    Bloon Obliterator (100000+ points) 1st class

  70. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Ooooooh, sounds good and exciting!
    I think the same thing, except I think the ranks should be ages, like from 0 years old (baby) to 16/18/20. And points should be mochicoins.

  71. BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan Says:

    For a rewards system it should be:
    1 point:
    Get to level 15
    Have a tower pop 100 bloons
    Get 500 money after the money you get to start
    3 points:
    beat easy on one track
    get 15 towers on one game
    reach rank 10
    have one tower pop 500 bloons
    get to level 15 on medium
    5 points:
    reach rank 20
    beat medium on 1 track
    have a tower pop 1000 bloons
    get to level 30 on hard
    10 points:
    beat hard on 1 track
    reach the highest rank for earning things
    have 500 towers across all games
    100 points?!?!?:
    reach what would be level 150 on appocalypes(or however it’s spelled)
    reach rank 100

  72. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    The real word is apocalypse the play on words is apopalypse

  73. lol1 Says:

    how about sandbox(extreme!)you start with the million cash and lives and start as if lvl.1million

    or a boss mode where it would be 1 bloon all the way to lvl.45
    it would be like
    lvl.1:1 green bloon
    lvl.2:1 green bloon
    lvl.3:1 yellow bloon
    lvl.10:1 rainbow
    lvl.20:1 brown
    lvl.:30:1 moab
    lvl.45:1 bfb
    lvl.46:2 bfb
    like that or some thing

  74. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Um, sorry, lol1, but I think a lot of us like it the way it is…
    Thanks for sharing though. The NinjaKiwi staff like ideas.

  75. Tejesh Says:

    I have a ton of good ideas, but I’m waiting to see what this contest is all about.

  76. iPhone bloons dude Says:

    Make bloons TD 4 transition into bloons TD iPhone game as an update pretty please… A lot of people at the app store comments want it too… I wouldn’t care if it was an update that cost like one or two dollars I just want it added to the wonderful bloons TD iPhone game thank you

  77. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Does the Apple store want BTD5 too?

  78. Zario777 Says:

    If you are accepting BTD 5 ideas, I’ve got a couple

    Pistol Monkey: $400
    Shoots a bullet every second. Pops 1 bloon. Can upgrade with the Dual Pistols Upgrade.

    Dual Monkey: $250

    Alternates guns every 1/2 second. Pops 1 bloon each. Can upgrade with the Shotgun Shooter Upgrade.

    Shotgun Monkey: $350

    Shoots 2 bullets every 1 1/2 seconds. Pops 4 bloons. Can upgrade with the Sniper Shooter Upgrade.

    Sniper Monkey: $600

    Shoots a bullet twice as fast every second. Pops 3 bloons. Can spot Camo Bloons. Can upgrade with
    the Machine Madness Upgrade.

    Machine-Gun Monkey: $3400

    Shoots a bullet as fast as a Super Monkey. Pops 2 bloons each. Can spot Camo Bloons.

  79. Zario777 Says:

    And:

    Lightning Tower: $425

    Zaps bloons in 8 directions with short ranged electricity every 2 seconds. Pops 1 bloon each. Can upgrade with the Long
    Stream Upgrade.

    Lightning Tower Lvl 2: $275

    Zaps bloons with a long stream of electricity. Alternates between close and long range every second. Pops 1 bloon each. Can
    upgrade with the Longer Range Upgrade.

    Lighting Tower Lvl 3: $100

    Increases the range of the close range electricity. Can upgrade with the Static Suction Upgrade.

    Van De Zap: $400

    Drags bloons closer as they move along the path. Can upgrade with the High VOltage Upgrade.

    Tesla Coil: $1800

    Shoots a giant ball of electricity that explodes into 4 bolts of electricity.

  80. btd_and_pp_lover Says:

    Um, not sure how to say this…
    That seems, I don’t know, like something meant to crash all the browsers in the WORLD.
    Plus we all want BLOONS-related ideas. Not to go off course.

  81. iPhone bloons dude Says:

    Oh yes we want btd5 on the app store

  82. Zario777 Says:

    @ btd_and_pp_lover: Was that directed at me? Because how is monkey glue, road spikes, pineapple bombs, monkey aces, or monkey buccaners related to Bloons?

  83. Phantom thief Says:

    ice pineapples doesn’t sound too bad. First off i would definitely add a few more options to the control of monkey aces. For example being able to a different flight path other than a vertical figure 8. also moab busters should also pop just a little more than rockets just so i dont feel like the upgrade is needed for moabs and helps you in no other way. favorite thing i’d like to see would be an achievement system. Other than that I can’t really come up with much more considering how great btd4 was. Only other thing would be incorporating the pac-man thing in somehow.

  84. fan Says:

    i have an idea of how would it be i will put it because i want is too, it is similar to the super monkey storm and is a 1 use tower (spikes,pineapples) you buy it and you see pacman moving from the end to the beginning popping (eating,haha) the bloons but only one layer, or maybe appears pacaman and you control it just like in bloons (with limited time), i think the first one is better.

  85. lol Says:

    wow!im really doing this on my wii and not my computer!anyways…how about a thing that makes you go back in time when ever a bloon escapes or when ever you want can upgrade to 20second rewind/faster rewind/and magic trick which once 1 bloon crosses,when it goes back in time the bloon is gone(it takes 200 seconds to reload and with faster reload,its 100 seconds

  86. fan Says:

    lol, what do you mean with: wow!im really doing this on my wii and not my computer, especially with WII?

  87. lol Says:

    i have internet connection on my wii so i am really doing this on the wii!(it wont let me play any games but i can do ANYTHING else so i need alittle help there if possible)and click on my name to go to roblox!

  88. ahchurro11 Says:

    BTD5 idea: hope that there will be newer bloons. i was thinking of a bloon that destroys or paralyzes a nearby tower for a few seconds or something.

  89. jgipps Says:

    Ideas for BTD5:

    lightsaber tower
    and orange bloons which only contain 2 red bloons but move super fast

  90. noname Says:

    how about zombie pinks? Every bloon it passes becomes a pink!
    and adaptipal monkey!Starts out as strong as dart monkey.No upgrades but every time it pops 100 bloons, it’s range and reload upgrades by 1!

  91. noname Says:

    and homing missles upgrade for bomb tower?Locks on 1 bloon and has an explosion win it hits the bloon!Upgrades are faster reload,missle speed,splash range,and fires 3 at once!

  92. noname Says:

    chris, is there going to be a compotion?

  93. Fabrízio bs Says:

    hot corn 3
    zebas 2
    sinta 2

  94. ravoria Says:

    I really wish this would be made for the iphone. I got to play this at school for a few days and gotcompletely addicted to it, then the term ended. Nowthat I no longer have a computer class, I can’t play it because my PC can’t handle it. Before anything else, update the BTD n the itunes store please.

  95. Nathan Says:

    i lve btd 4 ! i thought of : super super super monkey {shoots over 1000 darts each second } 100,00$ , road spike track {fills the track with road spikes } 1,000$ , a new red/pink bloon that one side is pink and the other red so that you have to fight 1 layer more than pink !

  96. bloons5 Says:

    I have a bloon idea: Bloonplane: 1,000 hits to destroy. if you must know: 19716 lives if leaked.

  97. noname Says:

    Prenium upgrade for wizard:meteor shower.Like mortor tower

  98. noname Says:

    upgrade for ace:set track.you get to choose the path of the ace

  99. bloons5 Says:

    NONAME, AWSOME IDEA!

  100. bloons5 Says:

    Now, for a tower idea: Poison Dart Monkey. Pops Bloons and poisons them.

    1st upgrade:More harmful poison. Price:169
    2nd upgrade:Posion splat Price:987
    3rd upgrade:Poison bombs Price:1797
    Preineum upgrade:Poison BOOM Rank needed:20 Price:5557

  101. Max. Says:

    looking forward to the ‘Bloons Tower Defense 5’!!!~

  102. ZodiacKiwi Says:

    Cowboy monkey;

    Lassos bloons and pulls them in, destroying whatever touches the lassoed bloon.

    upgrades:

    longer range

    faster lasso

    shoots cows that run on the track

    shoots utes that drive on the track

  103. bloons5 Says:

    A new bloon:TBBFB (The T stands for tungsten, 1st B stands for bismuth)

    A BFB but made of Tungsten and Bismuth. Takes 1,700 hits. Contains 4 BFBs. VERY big. 3,8099 lives. (total GAME OVER)

  104. Monkey101 Says:

    REPLY TO: BTD1,2,3,4 and soon to be 5 fan,

    Plaitnum Bloon, Has To Golds in That have 2 leads in them

  105. Jake Says:

    How about a upgraded sun god like the elements fire water and earth. So there are three monkeys side by side and they each attack with their element at the same time. plus you could have 2 super monkeys one normal one and 1 like bloons super monkey it flies around the map and you can get same upgrades

  106. Jake Says:

    hey you could also have a moab carier it bassicly carries 2 moabs and looks like 1 ginormas moab that has instead of a no monkey sign on it a no heart sign but it doesn’t come up untilrealy high rounds

  107. fan Says:

    dont post your ideas people may think you steal them i have like 40 and about 2 have been told

  108. bsm_and_sinta_luvr Says:

    But why would anybody think you stole them?
    Like, I have an ORIGINAL idea for a bloon, but… Should I share it?
    BTW, Jake, I second that!

  109. kiwis vs ninjas Says:

    How about if you make combined towers? that would be awesome. It would cost lots to combine, but the upgraded tower would be unstoppable. You could like get a flying supermonkey, a tack arial unit, etc. Btw yes, im new, and ive been playing these games for years…. Keep on going ninja kiwi!!!

    Ninja vs Kiwis out.

  110. cool dude 55 Says:

    BTD IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE GUNS! You hear that loud and clear!
    I know people like to play BTD at school, i know I do, but wouldn’t guns get BTD banned from schools! Chris and the other, no, Ninja Kiwi itself would be lucky if theyv didn’t sued ( or at least the BTD makers). Sure they have darts and stuff, but guns would be taking it to a whole new level. Again, guns are the type of thing to get ninja kiwi sued. We would be lucky to not play BTD5 at school, it could even come to not playing ANY BTD games at school. Now I know that noone has said anything about guns for a little while, but I still wanted to make that clear.

    By the way, I know somea kiwi games have guns in them, but do we get to play them at school? Plus, they just don’t fit into the game!

  111. bria97 Says:

    this is the best game ever and i love it i play it all the time but im addicted to pinnball yay

  112. bria97 Says:

    2009 was a big year for us and it was the best year ever but 2010 is in the house and its time for new starts and new begins and time for new games to come out

  113. BigOto Says:

    For the dart monkey maybe an upgrade to the dart monkey that shoots with a gun like Laser Gun or super gun.

  114. seba9000 Says:

    no send more premium upgarde es you lost cash

  115. bloons5 Says:

    Bigoto, you know know theres no guns

  116. cool dude 55 Says:

    Thank you bloons5 for reconizing my point

  117. BigOto Says:

    CORRECTION: For the dart monkey maybe an upgrade to the dart monkey that launches more powerful things like Laser Launcher or super dart launcher.

  118. ????? Says:

    I wonder what the Super Monkeys next upgrade will be since he is already a god…

  119. BigOto Says:

    Maybe a two-path upgrade where there is the sun god and also an ice god that freezes lots of bloons while still popping some, and slowing them down permanently.

  120. Jake Says:

    How about a bully monkey it has 2 giant fists and slams them on the track to pop bloons also maybe if they have the flying super monkey it dosen’t just drop pinapples it drops pinaples ‘tacks ,and glue while shooting and you can turn it into a sun god but flys in a smaller figure 8

  121. Jake Says:

    know what btd should team up with nintendo and you can either buy btd1,2,3,4,and 5 if made for nintendo dsi or wii or buy a packet also you can buy a card for ds if you don’t have dsi

  122. fan Says:

    wow jake you save me i dont have a dsi but a ds

  123. Jake Says:

    ok fan

  124. Jake Says:

    there should also be an btd app that contains all the btds

  125. Jake Says:

    there could be special planes that drop pinaples tacks and glue but they drop only 1 of them each

  126. Jake Says:

    there should be a new upgrade for monkey beacon called doublle pop it makes every tower with in its range pop 2 layers in 1 shot

  127. diego Says:

    ideas for btd5: you can get an ac130,
    an acid tower that shoots acid
    a pac-man tower, an upgrade for the cannon thats like morter battery but for the canon
    an upgrade for the boomerang monkey that lets it shoot 2 boomerangs
    the airplains can drop road spikes
    and put btd4 and 5 on the iphone/itothch

  128. cool dude 55 Says:

    How about you create your own bloon for BTD5.

  129. therater Says:

    Okay……….
    How about a M.A.T.B. ( that stands for Massive Ailen Technology Bloon)
    Which contains Two of the biggest created bloons ( this thing would take 5 super monkeys to pop fully)

  130. F-3H Demon Says:

    @Zario777 actually I think all that your ideas are not really in the game, with all that with electricity and all that. Actually I think it is exaggerated to give professional names to weapons of a game like that
    More ideas of score and all that:

    You can only get to monkey intellectual with challenge with 7025 poins so will get extra secret ones

    Also one of the secret ones should be:
    If you pop over 250 BFBs you win 700 points and another one should be:
    if you pop in all challenge games over 1,000,000 bloons you will win 2000 points

  131. ????? Says:

    The Mortar and the Bomb Tower(Cannon) are guns cool dude 55.

  132. BTDrocks Says:

    is BTD gonna be on the ps3, purchasable from Playstation Store? Normal bloons is already on it so BTD would complete the package.

  133. Monkey101 Says:

    BTD5 for Nintendo Wii

  134. Chris Says:

    we’re working on finding a partner to do that. Keep hoping!

  135. diego Says:

    how bout on score save

  136. noname Says:

    BTD5 idea: death balloon.moves really slow an takes 10 hits to destroy and contains 1000 pinks!:D

  137. noname Says:

    ninja monkey: throws shrukins upgrades: mega shrukins(bigger),flaming shrukins(lead),ninja power=7890(2 layers,high speed,camo detecting,times2 damage to MOABs and BFBs),insane speed(times 250 speed!!),highly explosive( + 100 splash),The fastest thing you have every seen!!!!!!!= 20000(times 5000 speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

  138. daniel Says:

    How about a UFO bloon that takes 500 hits to destroy, then has 3 BFBs. And how about a orange bloon which has a purple bloon, then a pink, and so on. Also there should be a upgrade for the dart monkey which makes it throw two darts at the same time, and finally… A LIGHTNING MONKEY THAT THROWS THUNDERBOLTS!

  139. Rex Says:

    How do you beat BTD4

  140. Rex Says:

    What will be on BTD5?

  141. Rex Says:

    You should make a black hole monkey and a lava monkey and a lighting monkey and a bomb monkey!

  142. Brandyboy Says:

    On BTD5, can you make it so you can delete any saved data please? Or at least on BTD4. I want to start fresh…

  143. Sam Says:

    An upgrade that shoots to cannon balls. Or a cannon that shoots pineaples. Or fan ugrade for the monkey that can make it shoot lightning bolts. Also you could make a submarine monkey that shoots torpedos. For the motar tower you could make a bloon nuke that destroys all the bloons on that level for 4,000. Or for the tack shooter you could make something called the ring of ice. For the monkey aprentice you could make an upgrade that uses the force.

  144. andrew Says:

    i want btd5 now!!
    plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  145. andrew Says:

    i want all the premiunm upgrades for free

  146. andrew Says:

    as a feature that is alredey unlocked

    when is it going to be avaneable becsuse i want a walkthrouh of btd5

  147. Drénay Says:

    As with the UFO bloon, I propose a description. A circle with the BFB symbol in the middle, while 3 others circle around it. Please include an easter egg !

  148. Drénay Says:

    I propose a glitch bloon. If you destroy it, 1 RANDOM bloon will pop out. Possible bloons are : Red Bloon, Blue Bloon, Green Bloon, Yellow Bloon, Pink Bloon, Black Bloon, White Bloon, Camo Bloon, Lead Bloon, Zebra Bloon, Rainbow Bloon, Brown Bloon, M.O.A.B., B.F.B, along with future bloons.

  149. Drénay Says:

    The Sun God (Helios, from Greek mythology) , should upgrade to Hades, Lord of the Underworld, has over 1/3 of all power shared by the gods.

  150. Drénay Says:

    You should put a reward sytem for the road items.

  151. Drénay Says:

    Tower combining sounds good.

  152. magma man Says:

    i agree with you drenay there should be tower combining.

  153. Drénay Says:

    The price for tower combining I think should be 500 Money.

  154. Drénay Says:

    Or maybe 200 Money.

  155. Drénay Says:

    Even better, 100.

  156. Drénay Says:

    Why can’t Premium Upgrades be bought with the money you’re using during the game ?

  157. Drénay Says:

    btd5 Says:
    January 3rd, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    ideas for btd5:

    custom monkey builder (have to unlock)

    after u rank up you get points for upgrading ur monkey for:

    Range
    Fire rate
    amount of bloons popped
    amount of layers it can pop
    Accuracy
    Special upgrades like if it can pop leads, see camos, pop frozens, can go on water, or if it does any extra damage to browns, moabs, and bfbs.
    amount of fragments it puts out after popping all of it bloons it can

    Perks:
    u only get one perk for a game and they have to be unlocked one at a time.
    examples:
    towers are able to shoot faster
    browns take only two hits
    3 cash for every two bloons
    more lives
    anything can pop leads
    towers get more range

    Challenges:
    challenges could be just extras that could add more to the game. if u beat a challenge then u could get some cool stuff like different colored towers or tracks
    examples:
    to beat the game without road spikes
    to beat the game with only dart monkeys and pineapple bombs
    to beat the game with no lives lost
    pop 3000 bloons with only dart monkeys
    etc.

    Towers:
    Flamethrower: is really good and doesn’t cost that much but u have to get fuel from the oil refinery upgrade from banana farms that bring in oil every round and u can choose wether or not for the flamer monkey to shoot
    Tacks: beat a challenge to unlock road spikes pro. it costs 80 and can pop fifty bloons
    Pineapples: beat a challenge to unlock pacman bombs. it costs 50 and when u click it, it sends a pacman from the end of the track that goes up the track until it reaches bloons then it explodes 4 times more violent than a normal pineapple
    Glue: beat a challenge to unlock hot glue. it costs 75 and slows down bloons to 1/4 their normal speed and can pop some of them from the intense heat. it can affect up to fifty bloons!
    to activate the upgraded tacks, pineapples, and glue just press “z” when u have selected one of them and “z” to go back to normal.

    Bloons:
    Gold bloon: normal pineapple bombs don’t affect it and neither does any normal bomb tower. u have to get the upgraded pineapple bombs or any upgrade of a tower that states that it can pop golds. Only intense heat can pop these guys like pacman bombs or hot glue or any upgrade of a tower. when u manage to pop it, it has 5 leads waiting inside
    Glass bloon: Invisible like camos but can’t be popped by anything sharp. has 2 camos inside
    Sand bloon: has to be popped by bombs but intense heat turns sand into glass so 3 glass bloons pop out of it

    Track: for each track their should be a special power that can do things like freeze every bloon on the screen but can only be used once.
    underground: part of the track should go underground were normal towers aren’t able to reach them there. : btd5

  158. Drénay Says:

    That sounds good.

  159. Drénay Says:

    Water Bloon : When popped releases a pink bloon and bloons around it have a temporary shield of water around it for 1 second.

  160. Drénay Says:

    noname Says:
    February 10th, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    upgrade for ace:set track.you get to choose the path of the ace

    bloons5 Says:
    February 11th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    NONAME, AWSOME IDEA!

    I would agree with them, but it would use more memory.

  161. Drénay Says:

    Please add a “Delete Game” button because sometime after you reach Rank 31 it gets boring.

  162. Drénay Says:

    About the glitch bloon, put in the higher levels.

  163. Drénay Says:

    Please use my ideas as I have used overs .

  164. Drénay Says:

    BTD5 for Nintendo Wii

  165. Drénay Says:

    Stop using slang terms to make new bloons.

  166. Drénay Says:

    How about talking about new types of terrains ?

    ▬Island
    Circle of land surrounded by water

  167. Drénay Says:

    I have some news for those of you that have the Wii console. Using the Wii Internet Channel, you can play BTD4 on the Wii !

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  169. Drénay Says:

    When is BTD5 going to be released ?

  170. bloons5 Says:

    I guess spring 2011

  171. bloons5 Says:

    new monkey: Psychic Monkey

    Shoots Psybeams with 20 pop count

    upgade I:Telekinesis

    This upgrade lets the monkey move bloons. 2 exeptions:MOABs & BFBs can’t be moved.

    upgrade II:Teleportation Burst

    Lets the monkey teleport with Psychic Bursts

    Upgrade III:Psybeam Pop rate up

    Title says it all

    Upgrade IV:Auraspheres

    Lets monkey shoot Auraspheres
    also spikebloon immune to darts and Glue

  172. thewwteam Says:

    I noticed that on BTD4, it seemed impossible to get through some of the levels, even on easy mode, easy track, without the premium upgrades. Could you make it possible to complete BTD5 without premium upgrades? But my idea is maybe a sixth upgrade for towers. The Monkey Beacon is the only one that has one at first (After Super Monkey Beacon, there is a Super Upgrade Beacon) and anything in range of the tower gets its 6th upgrade automatically.
    Dart Monkey 6th= Extra Speed- the Triple-Spike-a Pult goes 2 times as fast
    Tack Shooter 6th= Laser Shooter- It continually shoots long-range lasers out of its sides, one by one without stopping.
    Boomerang 6th= DubbleDubble Lightsaber- Lightsaber has 4 sides, goes twice as fast and can pop double the number of balloons.
    Bomb Tower 6th= Triple Speed- Has 3 cannons, shoots MOAB Maulers 3 times as fast.
    Ice Tower 6th= DeepFreeze- Freeze lasts longer, cant be removed by tornado or anything else, and completely stops balloon.
    Mortar Tower 6th= Mortar Madness- Shoots 2 missiles at once.
    Glue Gunner 6th= Double Corrosive- Soaks through 2 layers of bloons at once.
    Monkey Beacon 6th= Super Upgrade Beacon- All towers in Range get the 6th upgrade. This upgrade only works on towers that have the 5th upgrade already. If the player can’t get the 5th upgrade yet, this upgrade will not appear on the list. If there is already a Super Monkey Beacon on the screen that is upgraded to 6th, it has a change of color, while if there is already a SMB/upgraded SMB on the screen, the SUB is the fifth upgrade of all other Monkey Beacons.
    Monkey Ace 6th= Spike Shooter- Leaves a continuous stream of Road Spikes.
    Monkey Buccaneer 6th= Pineapple Pop- Occasionally shoots a row of pineapples along with its normal shot.
    Monkey Apprentice 6th= Along with using its random attacks, it shoots out a continuous stream of lasers, like the Super Monkey in its 2nd upgrade.
    Super Monkey 6th= Double Shot- Shoots fire out of the front and back, not just the front.
    Banana Farm 6th= Super Bananas Inc.- Generates 4000 per round.
    That’s my idea! Hope you like it!

  173. na Says:

    graphics engine
    you should be able to chose what towers are visible on the map, in BTD4 if you have 60 monkey aces it is hard to click on other towers and upgrade them. also this would allow the simulation of each level to be faster, especially on older computers.
    for example you could only render the bloons and road spikes at a given level at a time freeing up cpu cycles so people on slower computers and later levels don’t have to wait so long.
    at the later levels their is no need to paint bullets and towers just the bloons and road spikes so the player can monitor their progress

    anti-air
    an anti-aircraft/surface to air missile gun that just attacks blimps,should be able to be stronger against blimps then anything else to compensate for not being able to hit regular blonns. dont go over board on this and create things that only can be hit from the air/land/sea it is vary annoying

    Fog Of War
    i am sure you’ve played a classic rts that has, this each tower would have a illumination radius. would require more strategy, such as placing mortars in unilluminated spots near the end to prevent missed balloons. would require the creation of a radar tower that has a extraordinarily large radius of illumination
    illumination would be shared between all towers
    a stealth ballon htat cant be illuminated would be intresting
    in between rounds the player can see the full map but during the round he can not see the balloons in the unilluminated parts

  174. Drénay Says:

    I kind of agree with thewwteam, but it’s too powerful.

  175. Drénay Says:

    As for na, the only thing I don’t agree about is the Fog of War. This is Tower Defense not RTS .

  176. Drénay Says:

    na, just remember, if the game itself would affect your vision/towers, it would the TD contract. Also, this is for everyone, Bloons should not affect towers. The following is the TD contract.

    TD Contract

    The creeps should not affect the towers while the towers, in turn, should not block the creeps path.The game should not affect you .

  177. scott stoner Says:

    for BTW5, nothing should be worth mochi coins. not everyone has money for those. and there should be a tower that turns on and of that goes on both sides of the track, and pop ballons with a lazer. it should be a timed one. were it goes for 3sec’s then waits for 8sec’s. upgrade 2 should be on for 5 sec’s, of for 8(again until 4th upgrade) sec’s. then for three, increes time from 5 – 7.(keep upgrading by 2′s) and for the final upgrade, 9sec on, 4 sec off. (upgrade costs should go from 300 to 800 to 1800 to 3000.)and keep doing it like that if there are more that four upgrades this time.

  178. Drénay Says:

    I think you’re right . You have to pay your money for Mochicoins . That is way too expensive .

  179. btdf bloons tower defense freak Says:

    you should have a super ultra mega bloon with 500 bloons in it that would be very exciting and you should put 2 more upgrades for every item and make a super easy, easy, medium, hard, superhard, and a impossible levels to choose from and make it cost a little less these are my opinions so plz have all that stuff in there and make the graphics better thanks btdf says that BTD GAMES RULE peace

  180. BTD god Says:

    Sword monkey rocks.and pretty much every moving dead would be only good if we all have super computers.i suggest a angel balloon.its HUGE x10.in fact a little bigger than a bfb.also in CONTAINS 2 bfbs(4 would be cliche and WAY too hard to beat).It is light yellow and has wings and a halo.if not the angel make the B.A.L.O.O.N.(Bloon of.Annialation.lazers.i cant think of rest).

  181. BTD lol Says:

    Retarded Monkey – Shoots darts as fast as super monkey in 8 directions.
    Upgrade 1 – Shoots 5 darts and 1 bomb at the same time.
    Upgrade 2 – Can spot camo balloons.
    Upgrade 3 – Wider Range.
    Upgrade 4 – Darts go through every balloon until it goes out the map.

  182. BTD lol Says:

    I hope SAS Zombie Assault 3 or new maps comes out too. D=
    I got the premium and I don’t want it to be useless for the future games. x_x

  183. Drénay Says:

    Isn’t this forum about BTD5 ?

  184. diego Says:

    how about a laser toer for 2000 dollers

  185. r2d2cpr Says:

    There should be a power plant and each thing should run off of the power

  186. Drénay Says:

    Again, BTD is a tower defense genre game, nothing should affect but the track and the creeps/bloons.

  187. Linku Says:

    I got idea for btd5
    1. banana monkey that throws bananas on track
    2. submarine which can shoot up to 30 missiles per second
    3. upgraded wizard monkey with giant rock throwing powers
    4. Banana mansion for final banana farm upgrade
    5. increase fast forward speed
    6. make Dark super monkey for last super monkey upgrade after sun god(you can choose either one)
    7. more easy to get career rank
    8. player designed graphics
    9. motar tower last upgrade be 5 cannons
    10. dart monkey last upgrade= laser shooter can pop up to 50 balloons at a time
    11. monkey on track=can upgrade to be more powerful(But it can only be placed at the end of the track and bloons can get past it but it can also destroy balloons.

    I’m out^__^

  188. Drénay Says:

    Idea #2 is too powerful; you would complete the game too easily.

    Idea #6 would mean back to split upgrade paths.

    Idea #7 is a good idea.

    Idea #8 could mean that the graphics could become CRAPPY.

    Referring to idea #9, isn’t 3 mortars enough?

    Idea #10 “10. dart monkey last upgrade= laser shooter can pop up to 50 balloons at a time” needs to be “10. dart monkey last upgrade= laser shooter can pop up to 10 balloons at a time”.

    Idea #11; you shouldn’t be able to put towers on track.

  189. scott stoner Says:

    i agree with drenay. all that stuff is retarded though.

  190. matt s. Says:

    Linku, ilike your ideas! they are awsome!!!!!:) but i don’t like number 7 though. :(

    see ya! ‘__________’

  191. matt s. Says:

    hey! if you like btd4 plz reply

    ;)

  192. matt s. Says:

    :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

  193. diego Says:

    i love btd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    awesome game

  194. diego Says:

    i love btd evry one is cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    awesome game
    i agree matt S

  195. matt Says:

    how about a sort of machine placed next to the track that sucks bloons in through a vaccum then turns them on your side ( they could have a picture of a monkey on them showing that they are on your side) then they attack the enemy bloons, lets see how they like it =)

  196. hi Says:

    I recon there sould be more towers more upggrades less lag

    flamethrower monkey

    Ninja monkey (just for the sake of NINJA KIWI

  197. Drénay Says:

    Can you please specify the upgrades ?

  198. jj Says:

    ok i have a few ideas for btd5. ther probably not very good, but whatever:

    * a bloon that takes 200 hits to pop, and every second you dont pop it, it takes another 20 hits to pop.

    * a paintball monkey: shoots paintballs that make bloons decrease one level of dificulty (yellow to green, green to blue, etc) and moabs and bfbs decrease 2% in # of pops. upgrades would be automatic, laser sight (tracking paintballs), back to back monkeys (two paintball monkeys together), and bigger paintballs (reduces by 2 levels of difficulty), probably not in that order

    * stun bloon: if you dont shoot it with a dart, your towers are unable to shoot for 3 seconds and has 2 browns inside

    also you should be able to lock towers in place

  199. Drénay Says:

    The first idea is too powerful .

    The second idea is what the towers already do .

    The third idea will make the game no longer ” Tower Defense ” .

    In all, your ideas are lame .

  200. clynton Says:

    Chris y cant u put blab lite 4 back under game every 1 liked plzz Chris

  201. ash Says:

    plzzz can u put it bac .Wat are we suppose 2 do when the games is loading or something its so fun and u might hav more ppl come on if u put it bac plz chris

  202. ash Says:

    plzz thats the only thing ppl can do when there waitng for games to load.it had alots of people on there and frends. thats how people could make frends if they nevr had any. plzzzz i beg u 2

  203. Chris Says:

    We took chat out for a number of reasons.
    1) It wasn’t used by enough people, at most I ever saw was 10 people online.
    2) We couldn’t moderate it, and those that did use it abused it. Swearing, rude jokes and sharing personal info like home addresses over live chat.
    3) we do hope to get something more robust up in the future but it will take some time and planning.

  204. mike444 Says:

    new ideas for bloons td5: keep in mind many of these r my opinion, im not trying to be rude and feel free to comment on them

    1)rubber bloons-cant be hit by darts or anything sharp

    2)water baloons- (like water balloons) when popped get rid of glued bloons and cannot be burst by fire or something like that…or maby like i read earlier they can be destroyed with the lighting tower

    3)customized airplane track- for the monkey pilot item thing..it would b like u draw ur own path

    4) screw the new art style its just annoying i like the original, and simple style that made this game a classic

    5) i feel like there are too many upgrades for each item nd i dont like how u have to go in order wen upgrading (ex. when I am forced to buy extra range wen its pointless)

    6)ninja kiwi bird- the same bird that is in all the openings of the game and pulls down the screen it has to be in the next game

    7) i never use the mortar tower nd i think it should just be one of the split upgrades for the cannon

    8) more and better tracks without having to purchase stuff online

    9)i dont really like the ship and plane idk if others do too or not. but i feel like both of em are a waste

    10)bigger screens… the screen on the ninja kiwi website makes me scroll up and down to get upgrades, instead make it wider so u could play full screen.

    11)i love the idea of sword monkey whoever created that and the samarai too!!

    12)heart farms- like banana farms get u cash, these would get u extra lives

    13)less bloons- i feel like there r way too many bloons in each level cuz one its just not even fun too watch cuz the towers are so powerful they destroy them nd I dont even see them plus it makes the game lag much more

  205. Drénay Says:

    Mike444, all your ideas are good . Idea 13 should be aplied to the later levels .

  206. mike444 Says:

    thanks bro

  207. Drénay Says:

    Maybe we could have a pause function …

  208. c m Says:

    I thought myninjakiwi.com was great, it just got overrun by people who needed to be reported and banned after about a year or so. I am all for a new version, but maybe add the “Keep the name and description clean please” thing to the comments and PMs. Also maybe disable the post button as soon as the player clicks it to prevent excessive spamming, whether accidental or intentional.

    Some suggestions for BTD5:

    Rubber Bloon: has to be popped while frozen. This was suggested for the 4th one.

    Ability to save game in freeplay mode maybe?

    Challenge Mode: This was suggested further up. There would be special challenges, some on a certain track and others on any track at all. Depending on the difficulty of the challenge, it would get you different amounts of points. Getting certain amounts of points would unlock new upgrades or towers or bonus modes.

    Get rid of the premium tracks! You can keep the upgrades, but the tracks just doesn’t seem right.

    Maybe make the editor free, but have a “level editor bonus pack” that would cost money and give you lots of new features (I don’t know much about game developing apart from the fact that it can be very hard, so please don’t feel pushed to do this).

    A secret on every track, each one unlocked in different ways.

    Some way to make the game run faster, whether it’s a more compact file, simpler graphics, (don’t get me wrong, the new graphics are awesome) a quality button, or something else entirely.

  209. c m Says:

    Wait, a few more things I forgot to mention (sorry).

    MAKE SUPER MONKEYS WORTH IT! They cost over 25,000 to upgrade fully on EASY! Yet a correctly used lightsaber thrower or glue splatter glue gunner can be just as powerful, if not more.

    (Optional) EXTREME mode! This is for the true TD masters. 50 lives, very expensive stuff and 100 devastating rounds of heart-stopping intensity. Feel free to edit this in any way, or just not do it.

  210. Drénay Says:

    cm, all your ideas sound good .

  211. Drénay Says:

    In BTD4 expansion, the fast forwarding doesn’t work .

  212. c m Says:

    It think it has something to do with increasing the frame rate, like in the original BTD4, though i don’t know for sure. For me, the new one works, but the old one doesn’t. Not sure why.

  213. Drénay Says:

    Browser: Google Chrome 5.0.375.125
    OS: Windows 7 Ultimate N Version 6.1 (Build 7600)

  214. c m Says:

    Nvm they both work.

    I think we should have an I.P.S.A.O.D (Invincible Planet-Sized Airship Of Doom). It would contain around 4 B.F.B bloons and take 2000 hits to pop. Fortunately, it moves even slower than a red bloon. However, just to make up for it’s name, it would be
    IMMUNE TO SUPERMONKEYS?!
    Yep, you heard it. This would stop people from spamming banana farms and getting only supermonkeys. It would actually make them come up with their own unique strategy, therefore making the game much more interesting for everyone.

    If it escapes, you lose 11541 lives (57 game overs on easy, 76 on medium, 115 on hard and 230 on extreme if it ever happends).

  215. c m Says:

    Maybe since the B.F.B had the ‘no monkeys’ symbol, the I.P.S.A.O.D could have a ‘no supermonkeys’ symbol?

  216. Drénay Says:

    Why immune to super monkeys ?

  217. c m Says:

    Because i think people use way too many super monkeys lately. Even they have their limits. Using tons of banana farms is good, but then you have to create an unstoppable strategy with the money you get, and endless super monkeys just won’t do it. Even if you fill the whole screen, you’re still not invincible. To really become invincible, you need to plan your own unique strategy, and the I.P.S.A.O.D will encourage people to do this.

    An example of an unstoppable strategy:

    Normally, once i get lots of banana farms, i put lightsaber monkeys at the start to get the B.F.B(s), then some M.O.A.B maulers to get the M.O.A.B(s) that come out of it, since the M.O.A.B maulers have splash to get all of them at once. Tempest tornado wizards and mortars can also be used to pop them. Once you have enough to pop the B.F.B(s) and M.O.A.B(s) faster than they can spawn, you just need around 10-20 flame rings later on in the track and you will truly be… INVINCIBLE. Plus, this costs a lot less to get than all those super monkeys.

  218. Drénay Says:

    I have tried the strategy and it works very well.

  219. Shell Shock Says:

    MOAB < BFB < IPSAOD < ELBC (AKA: Death to all monkeys)

    MOAB = 4 Ceramic Bloons
    BFB = 4 MOABS
    IPSAOD = ( Not Determined Yet )Recommended:2-4 BFB's
    ELBC = IPSAOD's
    ^(Extremely Lethal Bloon Carrier)

    EPICNESS!!

    Thanks for reading, hope you can use this idea as maybe a bonus level or final level, it doesn't matter, i would love to help though.
    Im not sure my other idea is up there, but i listed some pretty cool ideas.

    Thanks Again,
    Shell Shock

  220. Shell Shock Says:

    Sorry, in my last comment i meant to put
    ELBC = 5 IPSAOD’s

    That is all.

  221. Shell Shock Says:

    Also, i do have a prettygood idea… Key : (I) = My Idea

    Super Monkey | Sonar Beam :
    ____________ |__________________
    Large Range |A large pulsating beam
    Epic Range |that refers to the effects of sun god; destroying
    Laser Vision |anything that it touches, but its beam is as big
    Plasma Vision |as one fifth of it’s range. Also being able to
    Sun God |target all camo bloons within its reach. COST:50000
    (I)Sonar Beam | (Considering the price of the Sun God)
    _____________________________________________________________________

  222. Shell Shock Says:

    Man, lol, that last message didnt go so well, i meant to say pretty good, and heres the effect of my Sonar Beam, a alrge pulsating white beam that has the same effect as the sun god/plasma vision, but shooting a ray one fifth the size of its entire reach. Sorry about that. (and i was listing the super monkey upgrades in order along with my custom one)

  223. Drénay Says:

    Shell Shock, don’t the bloons you created sound a little bit too powerful ?

  224. Shell Shock Says:

    Yes, but shouldnt there be a heart-stopping insanely hard challenge? i do think it should be called a B.L.I.M.P. instead of a E.L.B.C., (Big Lethal Invincible Monkey Pounder) but with only 2 ipsaods since bfbs are hard enough. there should also be a static bloon that temporarily paralyzes the tower that popped it unless it was a certain tower. thx for telling me!

  225. Drénay Says:

    You lower RBE by 100.

  226. c m Says:

    I think we should go back to the standard “two-path-upgrades”, just so you don’t have to buy camo-detecting or range upgrades to get a higher-level upgrade, when you really don’t need them. I think 3 upgrades on each path should be good. The last one of each upgrade has to be unlocked, which means more career ranks (which I personally think the game needs).

    Some possible examples:

    Glue gunner

    Path 1:

    1. Stickier glue
    2. Super glue (glue lasts forever and slows down bloons even more)
    3. Infectious glue (bloons of the same type that touch glued bloons will become glued. This should be really expensive)

    Path 2:

    1. Glue soak
    2. Corrosive glue
    3. Glue splatter

    Ice tower:

    Path 1:

    1. Improved ice tower
    2. Permafrost
    3. Arctic wind

    Path 2:

    1. Snap freeze
    2. Frostbite (frozen bloons become weak and take double damage, expensive upgrade)
    3. Liquid nitrogen (bloons stay frozen even after hit by fire or explosions![TOOOOOONS of cash needed, like maybe 12000])

    Super monkey:

    Path 1:

    1. Laser vision
    2. Plasma vision
    3. Sun god (make this more powerful please!)

    path 2:

    1. Epic range
    2. Adrenaline rush (increases speed)
    3. Slow motion (slows down bloons within tower range. [anyone got a better name for this?] THIS would make Super monkeys worth it!!!)

    Banana farm:

    Path 1:

    1. Banana plantain
    2. Banana republic
    3. Banana research facility

    Path 2:

    1. Extra value (causes red bloons to give 1 extra cash)
    2. Crazy ceramic (get money for each hit on the brown bloons, instead of just when it pops. Having a second tower with this upgrade increases the effect)
    3. Big bad blimp (same as ceramic, but with blimps)

    I also thought of a new tower-the Fruit monkey! This monkey throws different types of fruit at the bloons. Each fruit has it’s own unique abilities for popping bloons. Uses the fruits randomly, like the monkey apprentice. Starts with just pears and apples, but gets new ones from upgrades.

    Path 1:

    1. Quick throw (increases throw rate)
    2. Ambidextrous (throws two fruits at once at a slightly faster rate)
    3. Fruit bowl (throws 5 fruits at once at an even faster rate)

    Path 2:

    1. more fruit (unlocks banana peels and lemons)
    2. Jalapeno heat (unlocks jalapenos and cherry bombs)
    3. Ninja kiwis (unlocks kiwis and mangoes)

    What each fruit does:

    Pear: Pops up to 3 bloons. Similar to a piercing dart. Good for starting a game, but not much use for anything else.
    Apple: Rolls a short distance in a straight line, popping bloons as it goes. May help a bit in popping blimps.
    Banana Peel: causes the bloon hit to slip back up the track for a short distance. Good near a group of powerful towers.
    Lemon: Acid in lemons pops bloons gradually. Good for stronger bloons.
    Jalapeno: When it its a blooon, burns a small section of the track for a few seconds, popping bloons that go over it. Good against leads and crowds.
    Cherry bomb: Explodes on impact. Also good for leads and crowds.
    Mango: Sticky juice slows down nearby bloons. Effective in thick swarms.
    Kiwi: When it hits a bloon, a ninja kiwi pops out and shoots out 10 blades that pop 10 bloons each. Very powerful against blimps.

    Sorry for such a long comment.

  227. c m Says:

    Maybe i should change the banana farm 2nd path. How about:

    Path 2:

    1. Extra cash (Towers built within the banana farm’s radius will get 1 extra cash per pop.)
    2. Extra extra (Increases to 3 extra money per pop.)
    3. Gold mine (Increases to 10 extra.)

    Which one do you think is better?

  228. Drénay Says:

    ShellShock, cm, your ideas are great. cm your ideas save money. ShellShock, your bloons finally give us a challenge.

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